Far Shiverpeaks

If you arent allowed to edit / change the settings on something, you shouldn't have access to them. Wasnt it Alwies who told me that?

I did say that, but it isn't relevant here.
Because we do want people to be able to edit their post(s).
But rules about what can be written on this forum do apply. It doesn't matter where the post originated from. If it's a new post, an edited one or one that appeared by magic it just doesn't matter if the content is against the rules.

So if I understood Bez, I'd say you didn't get a warning for editing your own post. As that would suggest the edit part was the fault, where in reality the (new) content of the post was the issue.

Your logic does not surprise me at all Alwies.

After all, you were in dF, one of the original trademark guilds who would run past a flipping objective instead of defending it.

Oh poor you, other people not defending. Want a tissue?

Quote from: Hellbound on January 22, 2017, 07:46:40

Dansker, as technical admin, can you confirm whether there IP, MAC and hardware address checks to determined unique and distinct voters?

In other words, is it possible for a single person to use more than one verified account to vote with?

First of all in your sentence MAC and physical adres are the same thing.
While MAC can be found out someways, it's way harder than finding out the IP(for an website) and I believe requires actions from the user for the website to even be able to do it. I'd bet on it that FSP doesn't log them.

IP's are logged, if there where 10 identical ones i think Dansker would have noticed. Can't do much against VPNs.

That all being said if someone or even multiple people spend at least 3 years preparing for something like this and buying HoT 47 times, well they fucking deserve to win the election. I know they would get my vote, I mean they/he/she already spend 5 times the effort that an admin normally does in 3 months.
Yes it's very possible a few select people could have theoretically voted multiple times, but not nearly enough to even make any difference at all.

So to answer your question, yes it is possible. But it's about as likely as me having hacked all the accounts from everyone in this thread and having a discussion with myself.

PS. If i made a mistake forgive me, I'm not as good as Dansker.
PPS. Really if I where to rig an election I'd just ask 50 guildies to vote, perhaps give them a bit of gold. Way way, way more easy and reliable than what your suggesting.

Thank you for your analysis and input Alwies.

I am not saying that accounts were created during this past week.

People have been creating additional accounts and leveling characters 1.5 years ago when the game went free to play, and even before that some people acquired additional accounts when promotions were offered.

Fair enough.
Though in all honesty it's less work convincing 20 people to vote for you than it's to register 20 emails, 20 gw2 accounts, 20 access requests, spreading them out so it's hard be to noticed and not to mention possible ways to evade your IP giving you away.


Any accusation that's based on suspicion only is very hard to disprove as there's no evidence to discredit.
In "the real world" it's required to prevent evidence to avoid this issue and give your claim value.

Otherwise I could for example claim Captain Kirk from the starship Enterprise beamed in and stole my money. No one can really disprove it completely, they can only address the likelihood of my claim being possible. While it's a way more ridiculous version the point remains accurate.


 

I'm pretty sure the API verification system forces every vote to be linked to a single non-duplicated gw2 account. So it'd be impossible to create 40 accounts and vote with them, you can spam the public sections with those 40 accounts though.

Stats can be found here: https://farshiverpeaks.com/index.php?action=stats
They can't prove no abuse happened, but they do prove activity on this forum is more than sufficient for the number of votes.

Wanna prove cheating is an possibility, just create a poll and record yourself giving 50 votes to a single option.

Guess it happens on every server, still sucks though.

I didn't die yesterday B)
Will watch out for you xerion!

Looking forward to tonight should be a lot of guilds around.

@Beast
and i wish you where there to blob me <3

@wanted
Again really i never said deso doesn't have massive blobs stop trying to convince me of something i know.
"massive blob" is a term different based upon perspective, stop trying to make it concrete just so you can use it as an argument.

I'll make sure to add/remove a few of our numbers to satisfy your needs .

EDIT: please read my comment as it is written we opened our event because of superior numbers and in the end we had superior numbers. I still think FSP is the better server in quite nearly everything besides possibly  numbers and coverage.