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Issues & Enquiries / Re: WvW pugging and closed raids reactions
« on: November 02, 2015, 14:25:50 »
Quote from: Rav on November 02, 2015, 14:06:36
Have to admit ... pugs are too toxic
http://imgur.com/YBSGOJz
you cannot give a chance or be nice  with every pug, when some of them are toxic, and follow you with an blue tag,  telling to the rest of the pugs to join your channel :)

You espect guilds to be nice ?
He He He

Yes, I expect guilds with a big name like TT (and others, of course) to be nice.
You carry a certain weight in this community, and taking the time to type 'closed raid, sorry' takes less time than 'you fucking noob stop following us' (not saying you typed those words, I saw your screenshot, I'm just giving an example here)

Also, you're talking like pugs are a pest that don't belong in wvw to begin with. I'm sorry for not agreeing with that idea. I've seen you and so many others command blobs, winning fights 20 vs 50 simply because we had superior commanders, you couldn't have done that without those pugs following your orders.

Sorry if this came off as hostile, I don't mean it to sound like that, I'm just expressing my opinion :)

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Issues & Enquiries / Re: WvW pugging and closed raids reactions
« on: November 02, 2015, 13:45:56 »
Wow I'm kind of impressed by how many responses this got.

Guys, the question from my original post remains.
Can't people like PvX and be in a PvE guild, and do WvW on occasion?
Many of us don't like joining multiple guilds (mostly because almost all of them ask for 90% representing, which is impossible if you're in multiple ones), but let's say that can be worked around.
So if we can't raid 3-4 times per week, we can't be in a WvW guild, which means we can't WvW at all. Because that's what it's boiling down to.

Sure, like Rajel says, we can make a pug guild, but what's the point in making YET ANOTHER guild when there are so many WvW guilds out there to begin with. Also, things were fine before HoT, why did everything get so weird all of a sudden?

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Issues & Enquiries / Re: WvW pugging and closed raids reactions
« on: November 02, 2015, 11:43:11 »
Quote from: duro on November 02, 2015, 11:23:11
no offense but having a closedguild raid in eb is just selfish imo.
eb is only place for pug to go primetime, bl are full of guilds, so no chance to tag blue, and get a group who can fight anything.
so if guild raid EB, they take mb 20-30 spots aleast, leaving a blue tag with not enogh ppl to fight the blobs:-(, so if guild raid on eb, they should atleast make it a open raid imo

Yeah this was how it was pre HoT.
Ok, I understand, closed raid is closed raid (even though I don't really see the point in closed raids, more people = more firepower, but I guess that's not the correct logic here, my bad for being a pug  :) )
I also understand that the new borderlands are unfamiliar, but if you're in a closed raid with people you know, figuring out the new borderland shouldn't be a problem, right? Anet put A LOT of work in the new borderlands, I refuse to believe that they are bad, more just unfamiliar after 3 years of having the other ones.

If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me here.

Roïs: I can't speak for every pug here, but for me personally, I always ask 'open or closed' when I enter a WvW map, if they would just reply 'closed, but x comm will be tagging up later', sure, good luck and enjoy the fights, but going 'its closed you blind fool, go back to pve you scrub' is just VERY disrespectful no matter HOW you look at it.

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Issues & Enquiries / WvW pugging and closed raids reactions
« on: November 02, 2015, 10:35:20 »
Ok so,
First off, I haven't been in WvW that much since HoT hit, so this might not be an accurate view of things, but it's what I've experienced, and as someone who loves this server, I experience this as a problem.
Since HoT hit, the WvW TS channels have been more abandoned than the wasteland in the fallout games, even during prime time. Ok, I get that, new content etc, mastery gating and whatnot.

Then when I go to EB anyway (which still has a 10+ queue) to have a look around, and I see a tag, it's only natural that I go to the tag, right?
Apparently, going to that tag and following it gets me thrown insults (I'm not going to name people here, I've seen these people around a lot, and I know they are respected members of the community, which is probably for a reason. I don't see it as my task to call them out, it's just a few incidents vs so many good things in the past.) for not being in their guild, that I'm disturbing their closed raid and that I should go back to PvE like the scrub I am.

I'm sorry, but I find this very disturbing, considering how friendly and welcoming the FSP WvW community was before HoT hit.
Can I not be a PvX player, that has a very nice PvE guild, and still enjoy WvW when I feel like it? Do I really have to get shood away and insulted for not being in the top WvW guilds?

As I said, I'm not gonna call people out, it's not my place to do that. But I do hope this attitude changes, rather sooner than later, because right now I don't even feel like joining TS let alone join EB to see who's commanding.

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